TheRealMafoo said:
SciFiBoy said:
TheRealMafoo said:
SciFiBoy said:
i live in the UK not the US for which im eternaly greatfull
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I am grateful you live in the UK too. I assume if you lived here, you would expect me to pay for you to live.
Let me put this into perspective... I pay over 35% in taxes, and I work for a living (I am not rich).
That means if the government took there share first, I would have to work January, and give it all to them. Then work February, and give it all to them. Then work March, and give it all to them. Then work April, and give it all to them. After a few days in May, I can start keeping what I make.
If I was in the lower 30% income earners, I would start keeping what I make January 1.
Somehow, I think I do ok by the poor. Asking me to do more is a little crazy.
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aint my country a bitch? free healthcare and a better education system than your nations, yeah dont we suck? we also help the less fortunate in our society, really evil aint it?
you dont seem to understand taxation, taxes pay for public services, taxes pay for your military
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I have to go to bed, so this is the last post tonight.
I am not against taxation, it's what it's used for that matter however.
Let's say I was not in a country at all. Just a guy with some land. To protect my rights, I would have to guard my house, protect my property and livestock, and do the things needed to survive. Let's say that took 18 hours a day.
One day a man comes up and asks if I want to join his group to collectively protect ours, and 10 other peoples land. I say sure, Now I only have to work 16 hours a day. Not a bad deal. Let's say they then come to me and say “well, we need a fill time cop, and instead of the two hours a day you put in as a cop, we can hire one that's better then us, and pay him. it will cost you 2 hours a day worth of corn.”
So, being I am a better farmer then a cop, I can make the payment in an hour compared to two hours policing. Now I am down to 15 hours a day, and being taxed an hour of it.
This is the kind of taxation that's required, and I should have to pay.
So, now the guy comes to me and say's. Well, some people just aren't pulling that share, so can you work an extra hour a day to pay the cop?
Now we are in a progressive tax system. Sucks, but I am still not horrified by it. Up to 16 hours a day though.
Now the man comes to me and says. Well, some people don't have food, so your going to have to work another 3 hours so we can take your crops and give it to them. Now I am up to 19 hours.
This is where taxation becomes wrong. You are indenturing me, to provide for people. I am now working in the service of others, and it's an infringement of my rights. It's not what I signed up for when I entered this agreement, but if I don't, they are going to throw me in jail.
Take my corn to pay for my responsibilities. Ask me for corn to feed others. Taking my corn to feed others is wrong.
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