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dib8rman said:
Zucas, yes they are 2nd class gamers. Because my demographic which I didn't know I was in, (Just leaving actually.. damn time.) All want shooters and madden of course I can't play madden without part of my brain farting and kill zone just proved to me that Shooters to me are more cliche than Bishonin main JRPG that are so hated by certain JRPG detractors.

The distinction is there, no need to be so rhetoric, the only stupid or wrong thing is that people are assuming KZ2 or Gears 2 or Halo 3 weren't bought by Dads for Kids or by Mom for... get this.. mom.

This reminds me of a kid I met who told me he got into gaming because his babysitter who was a 40 something year old lady at the time, probably dead by now was really into Mario and was a monster at the game. (He is 22 now.)

Are young kids 2nd class gamers... yes - most of the time they don't get to pick and choose what games they get, that seems second class to me... I remember my son didn't want Socrates... but guess what he got. =)

I don't set the demographics I just point out its fallacies which obviously you prove my point on.  Actually you pretty much agreed with me on everything I said which is why I wonder why you even replied.  Reply to those who need schooling not those that don't.