| Apostrovich said: Also @fooflexible not all suffering of humans is caused by other humans. God is supposed to be omnipotent and benevolent. God cannot be both, because if god was benevolent, he would want to help all people regardless of position or faith. If god was omnipotent, he could. He doesn't. So god is either NOT benevolent, or NOT omnipotent. And as I have heard it put, if he is not benevolent or omnipotent, then why call him god? |
I'd rather not get into a giant debate it's quite clear I'm one against a dozen here, and I don't have time to write a book, I'll try to get back to a few of these things. But first about God, because I think most science and atheist types seem to have a short sighted view of things I'll explain(btw when I say short sighted I don't mean to insult, I can very easily understand many peoples positions, but I just believe there is more to the story.) Now what would you call a father who allowed another person to cut his son open? Sounds horrible, and you can't imagine the father loving his son or having his best interest at heart, and yet what if the person was a doctor? What if he was in the process of a surgery to remove cancer? The child might not understand that, but that's actually the bigger picture, and as much as the hurts the father to have his son go through that, he's allowing it because in the end he wants his son to live. In a similiar sense you could say that is what God is doing, and I know when I talk about biblical things people are going to mock me so if you take these things as a joke, so be it, just hear me out first. Let's take the Biblical creation account God creates man and woman(Adam and Eve) gives them free will. We all have free will the whole idea is God doesn't want to be served from robots, he wants people to chose to serve him. But what happens when they don't? What happens when the idea of what else is out there is so enticing they chose that over him? We all know the Adam and Eve story but most miss the point, they choose a world without God, God could destory them. But what would that prove? Would it prove his way is better? No. So I believe this is a time he's allowed, time he's allowed to go by allowing man to rule themselves and prove once and for all man would screw it up, no matter which way he goes, no matter what technology is developed, no matter what form of government he designs, we are at a point, where man has proven for time indefinite he can't rule earth in peace. And hence I believe he's established a time he would step in. Now terrible things have happened in that time, but in the end if he's making a point about how this world won't work without him, what would it prove if he kept stepping in to fix every problem? It would just work against him and make it look like we're find without him. So according to the Bible, this is that time which will soon end.
That's the story, now go ahead post 5 million posts bashing it.
