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tombi123 said:
@Kasz216

Yeah I like Stephen Hawking's take that science doesn't prove there is not a God.

But it shouldn't have too, the reason for science isn't to discredit religion and prove it is wrong. It is about a disire to understand the universe and the way it works. Religion doesn't want you to understand, it wants you to believe that God did it and that that is a good enough explanation. This is why religion attacks science, because it fears we might understand 'God's mind'.

I disagree.  Religion is an inanimate concept.  Like science it doesn't want anything.  The point of religion isn't to make people not understand the science.  The original point of it was either to tell god's word, or give hope to people to keep on living.

So an atheist view on religon would be an evolutionary psychological thing to give people a reason to live since well.  Unlike animals people need a reason to live since we've developed intellegence enough to need a reason to live.  It's one of many reasons people use to live.

Some people might use religion to do things like come up with reasons why we shouldn't conduct research or reasons to kill people, but science or really anything else can be used for the same reasons.

For example, we shouldn't research AI's anymore because one day they will turn against us and kill us all, and anyone who has a handicaped (via genetics) or gay should be killed so they can't spread that handicap on to others.  You could justify that those with higher IQs and breeding should be the only ones allowed to mate and those with lower IQs be stuck at maual labor jobs etc.

As many horrors can be inflicted by invoking science as religion, the only difference is that the guys who use religion have been on top more often and longer.

It's like that one saying from that one movie "Would you kill one man to find a cure for cancer" saving millions. The scientific and logical answer would be yes.  Well maybe, we do have a bit of an overcrowding problem right now.