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@ Louie:

Giant Wall of Text = Fail.

I'm not gonna quote it because it would pretty much take up a whole page.

I went ahead and read it anyways and I agree with you that stuff the church did in the past is pretty horrible and did little to really benefit people at all. that's why I like what Mafoo said in that he realized a lot of the hypocrisy in churches today in that they don't actually follow the texts anymore. A church that prays for your dead relatives and charges you to put him into heaven pretty much flies in the face of Jesus' "you received free, you give free" principle.

But I digress, its besides the point. Anyways, I am not defending any of those actions in the name of religion and in fact i condemn them just as you do.

What fascinates me is how many, MANY of you guys hold science in such a high regard; nay, as pretty much the highest standard there is.

But from what I'm reading, you're trying to prove things that are outside the narrow scope of science.

here is a statement, and i am going to bold this to make it stand out. t

Science, in its purist form, is based on empiricism and experimentation; and by extension, repeatability and predictability of the results of such experimentation.


If we put science under that definition, it turns out that there is a lot of things that we totally aren't sure about. I mean, how can we prove that Alexander the Great ever existed? There is no "scientific" way of explaining him since there's no "experiment" or "test" that we can perform and repeat. But that's fine; we have enough evidence of his adventures and accounts from Herodotus (I think) and such that we are confident enough that he existed. Its evidence, yes, but not scientific evidence since it wasn't experimented on in any way.

Science also does not do much in the way of family life or morality, either. I'm not sure what that kind of stuff falls under, but its not from experimenting or whatnot.

Don't get me wrong; I love science and technology and the benefits that has brought to mankind. But I also understand its scope and also that it doesn't explain everything in the universe.