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Mise said:
mrstickball said:
Mise, you are correct in saying that firearms aren't the only correlating factor in the reduction of murder rates. We also can imply that unemployment and poverty are most likely larger players in the increase or reduction of murder/violent crime rates in various countries.

However, you argued that reducing the number of guns would help. I provided a chart that shows otherwise due to firearms per capita. Feel free to give some statistical analysis that refutes my claim.

Here's a comparison between the US, with lax GC laws, and Canada, with much stricter ones, though it's slightly older. Canada is used here because it has a lot more common with USA economically, socially and historically than the other mentioned countries - and the overall crime rate is actually higher in Canada than in US, since violent crime is a small fraction of crime in general. Canada also has a higher unemployment rate (6% vs. 4,6%).

http://www.guncontrol.ca/Content/Cda-US.htm

Essentially, it states that:

Americans have 3.3 three times as much firepower available than the canadians do per capita,

2.7 times more total firearms-related deaths,

almost fifteen times more handgun murders (the non-gun related murder rate being roughly 1.8 times that of Canada),

and 3.5 times more armed robberies with firearms (non-firearm related robbery rate being about 1.3).

As for the homicides - 66% of american homicides were done with firearms, and 75% of those were committed with handguns. Compared to Canada, where the same figures are 27.3% and 46%, respectively.

And this proves my point that, although guns do correlate with more gun violence, it does not mean more violence overall. Thanks for proving me right again that less guns = more crime. Also, Mexico would love to have a chat with you, as they are on our borders too. And I believe their crime rate is far in excess of ours, too - half the guns per capita, 10 times the murders as Canada.

 



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