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Kasz216 on 10 March 2009
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akuma587 said:
jv103 said:
What does taxation have to do with capitalism? -I was under the impression that socialism was socializing the actual industry and business (or the capital). I get the feeling that in countries with highers tax rates, apparently nobody gets anything done.

It really doesn't have that much to do with capitalism, though in general capitalism leads to less taxes and socialism to more taxes.  But citizens of socialistic countries have to spend a lot less on things like healthcare and retirement.

The question is... is this true?  Or do they generally pay more... just through taxes with lots of it wasted away through bueracracy.

If I pay 20 dollars in taxes a week and get 20 dollars of groceries a week i'm not actually being paid more.

Also another issue in favor of capitalism is it's basically what made Europe and America what it is today.

Ask just about any historian... the individualistic, capitalistic, crass and firecly independent "nature" of people was born in Europe in the Germanic Tribes... which led to the defeat of Rome and the Dark ages... yet said attitudes and nature eventually sprung Europe into the superpower it is today.  Suprassing other more traditional nations that had vast empires.

One could argue philosophically that socialism dulls this a bit, and possible at prolonging future breakthroughs which spurr the general quality of living higher.