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RolStoppable said:
JPL78 said:
I thought the Sega Saturn's analog was the first one in console gaming. You know, they launched Nights with it's own analog controller. Then again checking wikipedia it says Nights was up against Mario 64 in sales that year... I just kinda remember playing Nights first and I rented a N64 the week it came out.


Okay, since when does "mainstream" mean "most important console?"

If we are going with important innovation then wouldn't X-box Live and use of a hard drive be big steps? I understand other systems went online first but the original X-box was the first to start succeeding at it and the first to have a hard drive. We could bring up Live related aspects like downloadable content and voice chat on a console.

Either way I can't help but feel like this list and subsequent posts become only about what systems the posters like most personally.

When compiling a list, it's best to define the criteria that was used. In this case it was about systems that brought gaming closer to mainstream acceptance. That means that playing videogames should be seen to be just as normal as watching a movie.

As for the unrelated point about Xbox Live, I wouldn't consider that much of a success, because pretty much any company could build something if it is allowed to blow $4 billion out of the window.

That's the stupidest snarkiest effing thing I have ever heard. You have blinders on if you think Xbox Live hasn't influenced every single aspect of current consoles.  Sony and Nintendo both had to copy it but oh no, it's not important. And its not that much of a success because they spent a lot of money on it?? That makes no sense.