hmm I'll check them out then, thanks for the tips.
by the way, GamingChartz, in CivFanatics there are a lot of mods that you might want to check out. I don't like the mash-up mods, and there are a ton there, but there's also a cool new mod about "the history of the three kingdoms", the classic Rhye's and Fall of Civilization (which comes with BTS) and even one shot at trying to "remake" Alpha Centauri. personally, I would like more "fantasy" style mods, but apparently (from what I see) there are still a lot of people in Civ3 and the interest is bigger in "total" mods (I bet that having to create 3D models is also another difficulty)
and this year there's also Elemental: War of Magic from Stardock
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