Human Rights

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TheRealMafoo said:

akuma587 said:
I don't even think 99% of conservative OR liberal people would agree with you that anyone should be allowed to have nuclear weapons.

Sticking to a principle unconditionally when the logical consequences of that principle are absurd is extremely naive. Even "love" can be a bad thing and even "fear" can be a good thing.

Why can't you compare fear and love? Why can't you compare any two things? I think fear and love are in a lot of ways very similar. They motivate people to do all kinds of things they wouldn't do normally. They are two of the driving forces throughout society historically. They are both a chemically induced cerebral phenomenon triggered in response to sensory associations one makes with the external world. Fear and love are completely comparable. I'm going to let you in on a secret, even apples and oranges are comparable!

Here is a question for you, where is the line between life and death at? Even life and death is not a fine line. Plenty of your cells go on living for days or even weeks after you are "dead." You are oversimplifying everything.

 

Cells are alive until they are dead. Simple.

And you can compare love and fear, you just can't equate that comparison to being the same as comparing Individualism and Collectivism. For example, I can fear and love something at the same time. A political policy can not be pro Collectivism and pro Individualism at the same time, much like something can not be alive and dead at the same time.

Additionally, you can not have a law that's pro collectivism and pro human rights. Thus, if you are for a law that is pro collectivism, you are for a law that's against human rights.

Give me an example where that logic is not true.

P.S. The number of people who legally own weapons and commit crimes with them is very very small. To fear them is stupid. And to think that someone would personally own a nuclear weapon just because they could is a little crazy. It's legal in this country for 1 person to own 50,000 riffles (and it cost a lot less then a nuclear weapon), and I don't think anyone does.

 

With so many people owning guns in your country it highly increases the chances that there are many lunatics there that have guns. 5 students from my country where atacked like 2 days ago by a inmigrant hater, 2 of them died. It may be normal for you but here it had a high impact, things like that dont happen here, or rarely do. You cant live with fear for those people but a crazy man with a gun is dangerous and if like more than 40% of the houses in  the US have guns, there must be a lot of these dangerous guys.