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akuma587 on 26 February 2009
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The Ghost of RubangB said:

@everybody saying "what good would come from legalizing heroin?":

Heroin would be cheaper. This is good for addicts. They will be less likely to run out of every cent they have and start mugging people. This reduces drug-related violent crime. That's good for everybody.

Heroin will be cleaner and with consistent purity. This is good for addicts because the majority of overdoses comes from switching dosages, which comes from switching dealers (who had shit with different purity levels), which comes from one dealer getting arrested, because heroin is illegal. The illegality of it is what kills people. No heroin addict just wakes up one day and decides "Hey, today I feel like doubling my dosage, even though I know it will kill me." There will be less heroin-related deaths. That's good for everybody.

Fewer people in jail, less red tape clogging up our court systems, no need for drug dealers or drug cartels, less crime, fewer deaths, lower taxes, and higher tax revenue for education/rehab/whatever.

@bardicverse, I'm not saying we should give legal jobs to drugdealers. We would make drugdealers obsolete and replace them with legal dispensaries, the same way we have marijuana clinics/dispensaries/cafes/whatever. If anybody still tried to deal drugs, we'd throw them in jail. We would make the idea of somebody in an alley selling heroin just as stupid as somebody in an alley selling milk or beer or candy. You'd assume they put something weird in it, alert the police, and buy whatever you want at a legal dispensary instead. And no, not at Wal-Mart.

And I wasn't trying to pull a "but the kids" move with my cars statement. I also said "or old ladies." I was just trying to say they run over everybody at random. I didn't mean to sidetrack us there.


@everybody, watch the video Jackson50 posted. I watched it when he posted it in an old thread, and it's really great.

The problem is that there is incredibly reliable sociological evidence that users of the "hardcore" narcotics are much more likely to commit crime.  Not to mention the physical danger those drugs present is very real, especially considering how addictive they are.  How addictive a drug is should be a consideration in evaluating whether or not to legalize a drug.

Marijuana, hallucinogens, and certain other drugs do not have these risks.  They do not encourage criminal/socially undesirable behavior (well, at least not anymore than alcohol does, and often significantly less than alcohol does), they aren't physically dangerous (you can't OD on them, although some hallucinogens are potentially dangerous to your psyche), and they aren't addictive.

Not to mention the US is only going to advance on this issue in baby steps.  It will be a major victory if we even get the biggest "non-drug" of the group, marijuana, legalized.

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson