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So if the PS3/360 is only appealing to the 25% of forward thinking gamers with HDTVs that would explain why the wii is doing so well and will never be cought, since afterall, its reaching 3x as many gamers...but..on the other hand you said HD is the future of gaming. This ofcourse isnt true but you have basically contradicted almost every point made in the previous post.

Bioshock isnt really an example of a modern game being shallow because of casal gamers, its an example of a game trying to be a good pc and a good console game at the same time, to maximise sales.

System shock was a great PC game and a typical PC game, alot of technical depth and so on, but thats not what makes a good console game. You have MS to blame for this, pushing PC games onto console. I believe the market worked best when cheap consoles got mario 64 and expenisve pc's got system shock. 2 entirely different markets, not this mess we have now of expensive consoles with HDDs and cut down, sloppy versions of PC games with poor controls.

 

To return to topic, i beleive that the world as a whole isnt yet ready to embrace HD in any form, be it movies or games and since the 360 and the PS3s primary sales pitch is HD (and HD movies to an extent), this is always going to put them behind the Wii. Next (ie not current) gen will all be HD and by that time the HD market will be alot more established, we will have a final HD movie format and there will be far more HDTV owners after the digital push at the end of this decade.

 

By the way, i do own a HDTV and i use it to play HD movies with great enjoyment.

 


I don't understand, in your first paragraph you say that I'm wrong and HD gaming is not the future.

Then in your last paragraph you say that HD gaming is the future. 

The present, yes, HD is not the standard.  That's obvious if 25% of the homes have HDTVs.  But what I'm saying is more and more every year HDTVs are entering people's homes.  This will draw more interest to HD gaming (and movies).  Like I said before, this doesn't all of a sudden stop Wii sales... I'm saying it increases HD gaming sales.  The Wii can keep its same pace while the other two increase as well (and that doesn't mean they'll ever catch the Wii).

I disagree with the dumbing down for the masses discussion.  PC exclusives are just as bad as multiplatform games, it's not neccessarily because of porting games to consoles.  FarCry was a great concept that had a lot of potential but went downhill around level 4 when the mutants were introduced. FEAR was pretty graphics with a gimmick feature that was around since 1999... but they made it look cool so it dazzelled people that are all about eye candy.  Doom 3 was a joke and so on.  (yes, these were later ported but they were all originally developed specifically for the PC).  It's gotten so bad that I only play about 1, maybe 2, great titles a year on PC.  That's sad... and it's not just because of porting games to consoles.  Civ4 was great.  Warhammer40K was great.  GalCiv2 was great.  Homeworld2 was great... when was the last great PC FPS? HL2? and before that?  Deus Ex?  So basically we get one every 4 years?