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have you owned any of the vid card to say they're not good for gaming compared to another?? between the 3870, 9600gt and 8800gt....9600 gt is FAR behind the other 2 in terms of gaming....i used to own the 3870 and 9600gt...and currently using the 8800gt...9600gt was returned because i bought a vid card that i thought was going to be better than the 3870...but to my disappointment was not....i had to return the 9600gt card to buy 8800 gt which i'm happy about...

btw i play alot of games...alot of fps to mmorpg..fps games weren't too much of a problem...but when i was playing some of the mmorpg....9600 gt was just unplayable especially when there was a need to render a long distance...i like my setting in the game high...so i dont like to settle for more fps by having worse graphics...

with past experience...i'd rather trust 3dmark...which seem to prove to me more than once it's a better benchmark to take a look at compared to that of another..

about the benchmark...i totally missed that there were more page...but yeah...they're the only ones that seemed to have done any benchmark because i've been looking around to find some benchmark...no one else has done a benchmark yet...lucky them....