WTF are Traditional Values?

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HappySqurriel said:

akuma587 said:

HappySqurriel said:

SciFiBoy said:

i believe that people should be treated equally regardless of race, gender, sexuality, etc, so if people apply for a job, the only factor in wether or not they get it should be how good they are/would be at it.

 

That is very much an equality of opportunity position, but you're a self described socialist and socialism is an equality of outcomes political-economic system ...

 

You are assuming that he adheres to every aspect of socialism, and that he believes in socialism to the extent you claim he believes in socialism.

I know a lot of people who are capitalists, but they think the government plays a fundamental role in markets. Does that mean they aren't a capitalist? No. It just means that they aren't 100% capitalist.

 

Socialism is a very specific political-economic system, while capatalism is a much more generic economic system ... Saying you're a socialist would be much more like saying you are a laisse-faire capatalist, and if you later said that the government should regulate markets your stance would be inconsistent.

No it's not. - There are many different ideas of how one would implement socialism (capital back  to the people from state run enterprise or capital back to the state to be divided amongst the people), from equal outcome as you mentioned to equal oppurtunity. It's about as specific as capitalism. I think you have the idea that socialism is this static thing being defined solely by state control over something.

They're both ideologies and more easily defined in that form. I imagine you recognize the nuance of capitalism as it's your preferred economic system and are much more versed in it.

 

No it wouldn't. - It would just say what ideology you prefer. The first one is a general term, the second one is an idea within capitalism.