Killzone 2 VS Gears of War 2 through the eyes of a programmer

[jetrii]

Ascended_Saiyan3 said:

I don't want you saying a bunch a stuff after I present technical info.  I want you to SHOW THE DATA like I did, because you are getting out of hand with some of your statements.

When you have the data from a reliable source or two, THEN we can have a real conversation about this.

 

 

Earlier when I saw the first few pages of that PDF I thought "That's neat, Naughty Dog is starting their presentation in much the same way they started the history of Uncharted presentation." 9 pages later, closed out of the PDF. Why? Out of all of the technical documents Naughty Dog has released, you posted one that couldn't be any less reverent to our conversation. The entire PDF is just an overview of how Naughty Dog structures their development studio and some of the tools they use. There are 2 useful slides in which they brush on SPU usage then it jumps into generic algorithms and methods that any graduate student could learn in their first semester. Even the 2 SPU slides are completely irrelevant since they don't even list the exact usage of the SPUs, any code, exact bandwidth, loads, memory usage, etc. The final slides show things which many developers already do and post effects which anyone with a background in computer graphics could spot just by looking at a screenshot of the game.

You showed generic data that has no value. I could change the name of the game/studio and show that data and no one would know where it is from nor care because it's just so darn generic! Naughty Dog is one of my favorite studios and they have released a lot of awesome code, algorithms, and presentations on their work. However, this is not one of them, this is the kind of PDF that you show someone that has no knowledge of Naughty Dog or how Uncharted works. 

Don't worry, I won't bother posting any numbers or specs like I did before, I'd hate for you to have to alt-tab to wikipedia every 10 seconds. Also, don't bother replying to this, I won't humor you anymore. Had you just posted that PDF, your opinion, and fundamental understanding of game graphics, I would have respected your opinion and politely pointed out any flaws in your understanding of computer graphics. However, your last post came off extremely rude. I can excuse your ignorance but I won't stand for your arrogance.