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akuma587 on 25 February 2009
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TheRealMafoo said:
akuma587 said:
So, I guess those banks who gave out all those loans and the people who entered into those loans aren't to blame right? Neither is Wall Street who gorged themselves on these things like a fat family at a Chinese buffet?

Let's not blame the person who shot someone or the person who shot themselves. Let's blame the person who sold them the gun! But let me guess, you guys are anti-government regulation on guns.

 

Akuma standing up for Personal accountability? Wow. Never thought that would happen. Oh yea, this one is more on the Democrats then the Republicans, so it’s no longer Governments fault.

If you think that people or entities should not take an offer now, that they can’t afford later. I agree with you 100%. I blame the people first who bought the houses. I am glad you agree with me.

Now, let’s move on to the spending bill that just past. Every state is getting some money, but in turn needs to set policy that in a few years they can’t afford. I am glad you and I agree that they should not take the money. I mean if they do, it’s only the states stupid fault for obligating themselves to something they can’t pay in the future.

So are you telling the government to give states' money with no strings attached?  And if those states aren't getting more money for that policy in the future, what is stopping them from getting rid of that policy?  Its not like the federal government can just come in and indemnify states.  The extent of their power is cutting off funding.  They can't really cut off funding as an incentive if they aren't going to provide that funding in the first place.  Nothing is stopping a state from changing its policies back.

Not to mention this is an extremely small provision you are talking about, mostly unemployment coverage.  Governors who are complaining about this are taking every other dollar allocated to them without saying a word.  Its like complaining when someone gives you a cupcake for free and you got pink icing instead of chocolate icing.

If they don't want it, no one is forcing them to take it.  Are you complaining that the federal government is setting standards for how this money is used right after you were just complaining how the government has not set enough standards for something else?



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