360 CPU and Cell are fairly equal according to Dave Shippy

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Fishie said:

joeorc said:

Fishie said:

joeorc said:

NJ5 said:

@Procastinato: So now most engine programmers are newbs? That's like the "developers are lazy" argument, it completely ignores one of the most important matters of game development - cost. Time equals money, the Cell equals more invested time in engine programming, which equals more money spent.

It's not that developers are lazy or stupid, it's that they have limited time and budget. Sony needs to learn that lesson and make developer-friendly consoles.

 

it's not like that, yes more time does mean more money..but also it mean's you as a developer will not be prepaired for the next trend in Microprocessor's..like the Cell processor..if you look at the way the New processor's from Intel,Ati,Nvidia and Amd, IBM, STI they are all producing

CPU/GPU combo chip's it's learn it now or later ..that's the developer's choice, some are learning it now

 

 Why do you keep talking about stuff you dont understand and stuff like STI(Sony bailed out of the project, look it up so even Sony gave up on CELL)that no longer exists?

 

o'l brother..bailing..huh, look who happen's to hold patent's on the Cell processor, and guess what Sony can just buy chip's off of Toshiba

or build another plant and produce them their selves if Sony wanted too....you act like the Cell is a Failure..god you are dense

-beer is on tap

 

Sony has sold their chip facilities to Toshiba for cheap because they could no longer finance the losses.

Toshiba now holds more patents to CELL then Sony AND is making them for Sony and themselves.

Apart from the PS3 Toshiba is also the only company actually putting CELL in a consumer product because hey they have it so why not use it.

Toshiba and IBM hold all the cards here, Sony has none left. Sony cant demand further development of CELL because they abandoned the project themselves, Sony cant expect economies of scale to lower the price of CELL and is at the mercy of Toshiba since they have no fabrication facilities left nor the money to start any(that entire thing with being in debt several billion dollars and all you know).

 

In short the future of CELL is screwed and so is Sony with regards to CELL.

 

I'm not sure it's screwed, but many where banking on the ps3 dominating the gaming sphere, and driving the adaption of the chip for another functions...and that's not really happening on a mass markeet scale.  PS2 had almost reached 100 milion ( if not more) by the release of 360, so it wasn't pie-in-the-sky by sony, but the console just met too much competition, and it lacked transformational tech to covince consumers to accept the higher price.  With the current losses incurred by Sony, you have to wonder when you'll see the PS$.  Antoehr thing is you're constantly hearing the talk about how developers are JUST now starting to learn to program for the PS3...so looking at the timeline:

- 2010...programmers start to really push the ps3....

- 2011/2012...Nintendo/M$ launch new console....

Won't this put the ps4 is the same position as the ps3 wrt to the next generation?