360 CPU and Cell are fairly equal according to Dave Shippy

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joeorc said:

heruamon said:

joeorc said:

heruamon said:

joeorc said:

heruamon said:
ROFLOL...yeah, but the cellz mafia will say, "What does he know?" Anyway, in gaming, your GPU is nearly as important as yyour CPU, so this cell worship something leaves me scratching my head.

yup..keep slamming it big boy, because the result's are speaking loud and clear..the Cell Processor is a very good processor for game's

you may not agree with it, and that's YOUR OPINION but your OPINION is far from a fact.funny you point out the GPU is nearly as important as your CPU

 

well its a great thing the "CELL Processor" is also a GPU chip. and before you say not a very good one..

30+ billion shader /ops per sec beg to differ. you may like to gloss over that but it's D@mn near half of the Main GPU in the PS3, and 75%

as much as the main GPU in the xbox360 with (it's base 48 billion shader op's/sec) not the 96 Billion used in code alignment

 

 

 

Once again, cell mafia take ANY critique as a mortal threat...I'm not saying the cell processer isn't powerful, just that it's not this CPU that is going to deliver results that totally can't be touched.  There are also the power usage considerations for how you set it up...

WOW, did i say they can't be touched. there you go putting word's in people's mouth, and what prey tell are you ref. to with this statement?

"just that it's not this CPU that is going to deliver results that totally can't be touched"

by the xbox360?

other processor's in PC's?

 

because if you are talking about PC's yea, of course the Cell can be touched, hell you can put Cell processor "BACKPLANE" card in your PC right now...$400.00....

 

Now if you are talking about the XBOX360 that's quite debatable, why

1) you can make a game for both platform's that can absolutly choke the other's hardware. so it's Moot

2) the full system capabilities are not tapped yet on both platform's. so once again it's Moot

3) and HOW do you know what the developer's can do with the PS3 or xbox360. the developer's are not done yet so that's Moot.

so what were you ref. too?

 

 

I'm looking compared to PC/360 gaming...I jsut don't have that fine an eye in comparing games.  When I play GearsOW 2...and I saw R2...I really didn't see how R2 was so much better.  I've not seen KZ2 running live, and you kinda have to see it to really judge it, imho.  The game looks great, but how is does it spiral out the concept from say a quake wars?   Graphics seems to somehow have become the end-all-be-all for some.

I can see where you are comeing from, but that is why you have your OPINION based on what you observe. but other's may see it the other way.

example:

gear's art style is very cool in my opinion because they REMIND ME OF Warhammer 40k...the machine god want's his cog back by the way...

and quite a bit of gamer's like the result's that EPIC did with Gear's of war..me included..i like the SQUAD level combat .smile

but on the same token.there are other's that hate the art style, and think all the Gear's of war character's look like pin headed thug's in power armor with big gun's and big chain saw's.

while Killzone 2 has a artstyle inline with Gear's of war, the art style has quite a bit of response into how people's opinion which game they like best.

followed by gameplay..now not all gamer's game play is first for me..but some look at the artstyle fir's over game playability

storyline is very important to me..mainly because i Like RPG's..but some could care less as long as they can shoot thing's...:D

I agree with you on the idea that "GRAPHIC'S" HAS BECOME SO MUCH FRONT LOADED, BUT IT'S JUST HOW IT IS PRETTY MUCH DEVELOPER'S ARE KIND OF FORCED INTO THAT for the most part because Gamer's tend to compare the game's v's another Game

Graphic's

game play

network

etc.

and it's pretty silly to me because the game is to be played for ENTERTAINMENT not to cause trouble..unless that's your ENTERTAINMENT in which case that's sad

not saying you..but some gamer's in as a general statement IN my Opinion

 

 

 

I'm just looking at L4D as an example...the graphics are good, but it's not earth shattering,....it's the content.  In looking at Gears franchise, it was the tweaks in gameplay that made that such an awesome gaming experience.  The combat action was much more grounded and rooted in movement and cover, vice "hopping" for example.  The graphical boost were important, but gameplay was far more important...