International Law?

[SciFiBoy]

Kasz216 said:

Rath said:

Kasz216 said:

Rath said:
The Geneva Convention may not apply to terrorists however the ICCPR does apply to them.

http://www2.ohchr.org/english/law/ccpr.htm

It also has been ratified by the USA and Britain. That is the international law that has been broken.

It hasn't been rattified by the US to my knowledge. (Via act of congress.)

After all we still have the Death Penalty which is strictly banned by it.

 

Not at all

"2. In countries which have not abolished the death penalty, sentence of death may be imposed only for the most serious crimes in accordance with the law in force at the time of the commission of the crime and not contrary to the provisions of the present Covenant and to the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. This penalty can only be carried out pursuant to a final judgement rendered by a competent court."

It doesn't strictly ban the death penalty at all, just states how it can be used.

It was ratified by the United States Senate though.

It was not fully ratified.  No.

(3) That the United States considers itself bound by Article 7 to the extent that "cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment" means the cruel and unusual treatment or punishment prohibited by the Fifth, Eighth and/or Fourteenth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States.

In otherwords... if you don't qualify for the Fifth, Eight and Fourteenth ammendments... well...

List of other such exceptions...

 

http://www1.umn.edu/humanrts/usdocs/civilres.html

Under the way the US has ratified it... nothing in Guantanmo should have betrayed it.  Legally anyway.  Hence why i say they never really agreed to the law since they just said "We'll do it as we see it."

 

so the US considers itself above international law yet feels the laws that it wont adhere to should be applied to all other nations? also lots if people in guantanomo have never faced charges or a trial, until charges are brought against them or they are convicted by a court of law you cannot call or treat them as terrorists, only terror suspects which is differnet as a suspect is innocent until proven guilty (at least thats how the system is supposed to work)