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appolose said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:

Either way, the whole Puritan sex laws that still haunt America are fucking ridiculous and it used to be the law that rape isn't as bad as premarital sex.  If you rape somebody and get them pregnant, you can pray a little and then marry them and it's all fine and dandy.  The whole system is sexist bullshit that thinks women are whores if they have sex (like mrstickball pointed out), and guys are just young and practicing and fooling around and they'll grow up and settle down eventually.

To be fair, mrstickball didn't say only women could be whores (not that you were necessarily implying that, but just in case).
Also, I don't think you or your family would qualify as "whores" in mrstickballs example if you and your family didn't find premarital sex immoral.  He was saying that if you want to abstain, you can.

I think mrstickball could have chosen a better word that wasn't so attached to degrading women and not degrading men, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until he proves otherwise.  I'm just sensitive about that because it's like the whole world treats women like whores and men like suave pimps when they have sex.  But even then, I don't think we know enough about Bristol Palin to call her a whore.  But that whole debate depends on what mrstickball's definition of whore is: a slovenly woman, promiscuous woman, teen pregnant woman, or person who had sex before marriage.  If it's just sex before marriage, then most of the planet is whores.

 

@bolded: I think that's true and great and should be taught.  I just don't want people to ONLY be taught that, because then when it comes time for them to make their decisions, they're not informed, and are thus more likely to make a bad decision.

I have nothing against abstinence or people who practice it.  My beef is with the people who teach it and refuse to teach anything else (that can save lives) and think that we should be spending tons of federal money on teaching absinence and only abstinence, and hiding the rest of the life-saving truth from all our children.