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actually I think mrstickball is much more on the money on this one. Granted at the end of the day GT5 WILL outsell Forza 3 but from the tidbits we've gotten it looks like F3 is REALLY stepping up its game. The fact is if MS can manage to get it out the door quicker than GT5 and market the hell out of it F3 will certainly steal some of GT5's system selling power. Now will it completley negate it? No of course not but it will definately make an impact.