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akuma587 on 15 February 2009
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Slimebeast said:
akuma587 said:

You are making a big assumption there.  You claim that scientists are making huge assumptions, but then you go and make one yourself.  I'll throw it right back at you then.  What created God?  You said it yourself that "stuff don't come out of nothing without a reason."  You are limiting yourself to thinking in terms of strict causation.  Eventually, something would have to come out of nothing, whether it be God or the universe.  So believing in God means that you believe that there can be something without a form of causation.  So thus, you have disproved your own argument.

 

 

 You know what I'm going to reply here.

God is the cause, he didn't came out of something because he's always been there.

I'm not saying it's easy to grasp, and there might even be hints of contradiction in the concept of a God. But it's still a lot easier to accept an eternal God as a cause, than "Universe started with the Big bang which came out of a singularity, which came out of nothing without reason."

 

 

Man, you just walked right into that one didn't you.  Did you even read any of the arguments we had in this thread earlier?  You are more entitled to believe what you just said is true, but that doesn't mean your theory is any better than any of the scientific theories that have been proposed.

 



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