rocketpig said:
This makes absolutely no sense. I'm not knocking your stance, just wondering how you think it's okay to eliminate an innocent fetus, that if left to its own devices, would in all likelihood be born but not okay to put someone like Charles Manson to death for crimes he admitted to doing without showing a lick of remorse for committing them. On the other hand, I don't understand being pro-life and pro death penalty, either. |
I'm personally sort of neutral on the death penalty issue, so I don't really have a vested interest in the debate, but the pro-choice/anti-death penalty position makes sense to me if you approach it from a civil liberties perspective.
In many ways, our rights are more important than our lives are. I mean you hear people babble on about how people fought and died for our way of life, but it really is true if you think about it. The people who moved over to this country originally abandoned their way of life and their country so they could live how they wanted to live. Many of them died in the process. We've waged wars over our way of life. That was what the Revolutionary War was. Its consistent with me that you value a person's rights based on our Constitution more than life itself at times. That's what our country is based on. Give me liberty or give me death.
The pro-life and pro-death penalty position I can't really rationalize from the same perspective as the argument is typically religious in nature. If you were Jewish it would make more sense as the Jewish God is a more vengeful guy. I wouldn't really see a contradiction to the same degree as I would otherwise. But as a Christian its pretty inconsistent if you are rationalizing your position based on Christianity.
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