| bardicverse said:
Youre presenting the extreme end, where a person lives on junk food. Sure, you're guanteed to lose weight simply by stopping excessive food intake, eliminating fast food and soda. Again, it depends on the person's metabolism as well. |
Actually, for him it wasn't a matter of stopping food intake so much as knocking out a couple key no-no items and changing his daily eating cycle slightly.
| bardicverse said:
Also, you apparently didn't understand my rephrasing, since you don't think I did. For the average person, who doesn't live on MCDonalds and ice cream, you won't shed weight nearly as quickly with just dieting OR exercising as you will with a combination of the two. This is not wrong at all, as you seem to claim, but I simply think you had an issue absorbing the point. There's an old saying "The last 10 pounds is the hardest to lose". This is because the metabolism is near its target range, so short of starving yourself, its very difficult to do without exercise. You need to actively burn those calories up with exercise. |
And here you just moved your goal posts. Now that I've shown you can lose weight via simple dietary changes you've just changed your argument from "dieting alone is ineffective" to "it's not as fast." Even better, now that you've changed your argument you immediately set out to knock down the strawman you just set up. I'm sorry, but that's not even worth dissecting.
| bardicverse said:
So, yes, while youre right about your obese friend, the average normal person needs to do more than just change eating habits in order to reach target weight. In other words, pretty much what Khuutra said. |
In other words, your original argument failed so you're going to agree with the person who said what you should have said in the first place.
