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Khuutra on 12 February 2009
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Words Of Wisdom said:
bardicverse said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
bardicverse said:

Dieting alone is ineffective. Exercising alone is ineffective.

Don't be silly.  Both can be quite effective in themselves without one another when done properly.

Let me rephrase - If you want results, both are needed. Dieting without excercise does nothing to shape the body, just reduce size. Excercising but eating crap like Burger King all the time is like an endless loop - no weight loss, just mass building, but still unhealthy for things like cholesterol, etc.=)

You didn't rephrase at all, you just said the same thing all over again and you're still wrong.  Try again.

Just to give you a little bit of anecdotal evidence to explain where I'm coming from, one of my friends weighed 230 lbs.  He said he wanted to lose weight so I bet that if he took a little advice from me that he could lose at least 15 lbs.  So I give some advice based on my own eating habits.  In about 6 months he dropped about 50 lbs.  He weighs around 180 now I think.  He'll need to start exercising if he hopes to drop below that I think, but losing 50 lbs just by changing your eating habits is pretty impressive (also shows just how bad his eating habits were before that...).

So you can say that diet is ineffective by itself or that exercise is ineffective by itself and I can safely say you're full of crap.  Nothing against you personally but I have firsthand experience proving that you're wrong.

I think what bardciverse means to say is that diet and exercise, when used together, are much more effective than either one alone, and probably more effective than the sum of their parts.

Anecdotally: I do weight-lifting, but I am still very underweight because my diet doesn't give me the proper intake of protein and carbohydrates. I'm going to see muscle definition, but I won't be able to bulk up until I am in a position to incorporate a better diet (read: not eating cafeteria food every day).

I think that's what he meant.