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Kantor said:
terislb said:
Kantor said:
terislb said:

im sorry CGI i didnt mean to bash anyone.. whati mean to say is ... if you think this is perfect... you dont know about the games that are even better.. and thats why you should never call something "the best" unless youve seen them all..which ..in most cases is very difficult to do unless you have a lot of time /money or emulators on your hand

Never said it was perfect. I just said it's the best FPS I've ever seen.

Now, if I don't have this time/money/these emulators, I can only judge based on the FPS games I've played (or played a demo of):

Counter Strike

CS Condition Zero

CS Source

Medal of Honor: Rising Sun

Medal of Honor: European Assault

Battlefield 2: Modern Combat

Unreal Tournament III

Battlefield: Bad Company

Haze

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (currently the best full game)

Left 4 Dead (second best full game)

If you count BioShock, I would have to put that at the top, CoD4 in second and L4D in third. KZ2 seems to be about par with BioShock quality, which is damned good. Based on the full game, I can decide whether it's better or not as good as BioShock.

So, right now,

1) BioShock, Killzone 2

2) CoD4

3) L4D.

I haven't played a lot of FPS, I know. I owned three FPS in my >30 games on PS2.

now sir dont be mad.. its not my intention to fuel the fire between "lolz kz2 sucks" and "its the best game in the history of evar" what i want is people to be less absolute ..if a game is "only" very good lets call it that and not nitpick about it only because i own the other console .. or in the other extreme give it too much praise and overlook its flaws because i only own that console

i didt not mean to insult you or hurt your feelings.. you just seemed to represent the other extreme of giving it too much praise despite its flaws

as for your list.. i have no problem calling it the best you have played so far : )

if i may humbly suggest a few other games for you to try you can get most of them for both the pc and the ps2

half life (1) + opposing forces , deus ex , the mercenaries (1!) , system shock 2 , unreal tournament ,quake 2 , fear ( the sequel will be released in a few days) the chronicles of riddick .while most of them look very outdated by todays standards.. their gameplay is still fun if you can give it a chance ..especially system shock 2 . if you enjoyed bioschock you should try that one

Mercenaries isn't an FPS, there's no way I'd be able to find Half Life anywhere ever, I have Deus Ex, don't know why I haven't played it, System Shock 2...hmm, again I'd never find it, UT...no thanks, Quake 2...no thanks, FEAR 2 put me off FEAR, The Chronicles of Riddick just looks weird.

I'm sure Half Life could be better, but it's only fair to compare this to console FPS, right? And my statement still stands. KZ2 is set to be the best FPS I have ever played.

Ok, now you got my attention. Forget Killzone 2, play Deus Ex! If you have it now, play it. Of course the AI, physics, and graphics in no way could compare with Killzone 2 (as I already mentioned, no game could), however Deus Ex is an incredible game with a great story, and my personal favorite of all time. BTW play the Windows version, I heard the PS2 version is terrible.