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ClaudeLv250 said:

flamevizier_34 said:
ClaudeLv250 said:
A petition? Why do they need a damn petition? And after what they did with Lair motion controls, I thought people would be petitioning to keep them off of the Wii, or at least to be under some kind of supervision from Nintendo to get the motion controls down.


Im sorry ClaudeLv250 but, are u frekin retarded? Seriously im sorry but i couldnt withhold myself, arrogance just pisses me off.

Rogue Squadron 2 for the Gamecube, much like Metroid Prime was one of the most underappreciated but best games ever for its time. 3rd party developers 5 years into the gamecubes development cycle still havent been able to push the gamecube to that level of polish and prefection that factor 5 has done with rogue squadron 2. Its a god dam launch title and it looks better than most of last years gamecube games is what im trying to say.

Factor 5 may have slipped up on Lair, but regardless its still pretty awesome to look at (hold your thought i know what your gonna say, "but it plays like crap" i know wait). Factor 5 is alot like Retro Studios, both are perfectionists and experts at bringing the consoles true potential to the surface, and playing with all of its strengths. While Lair was pretty awesome and realistic, it had no control. (Admit it tho, when u saw Lair screens you were wishing you wore brown pants). Imagine what they could do on the Wii.

IMAGINE!

Dont believe me, look at the screens and reviews.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/165/165337p1.html

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I'm "frekin retarded"? You're a moron. Your entire argument revolves around the glory days of past. Factor 5 needs to do a lot more than just say they want to make Wii games for them to be worthwhile, especially when Lair seems to be part of a downward spiral trend. All of their responses to the Lair debacle have been pointing fingers elsewhere rather than taking up issues with the game's flaws itself, because half-assed motion controls weren't Lair's only problems. It looks as if they're making NO effort to address gameplay design issues that plagued them all the way back on the GameCube. I see no reason to scoop them up onto the Wii bandwagon (where it's easier to mess up the controls) when they've shown no active will in attempting to fix, or at least address, the true issues that plagued Lair. Not until they get their act together.

This isn't even taking into account one of their brilliant ideas for a new Wii game are Rogue Squadron rehashes, most likely with waggle controls tacked on...


 


 All I have to say (man this guy has me typing all proper...) is that you made a good point. Its 12:43 here in Texas and I don't think I can make a complicated and well written comeback without making a fool of myself so ill make this simple. To start off ill say this again. You have a good point, thier team isn't as responsible as they once where "pointing fingers and such"... I can sympathize because its thier first game on the PS3, the coding is extreamely difficult ( fanboys say what you want) , not to mention all the hype that went into Lair and how its going to be PS3's AAA title. They didn't get it right on the controls, but whos to say they wont get it next time? Now that thier cred is in the gutter, publishers may think twice about funding Factors 5's games. Why not give them a chance getting thier legs on a nintendo console? With all the shovelware coming out nowadays ( Ninjabreadman oh god, or Billy the Wizard) some original 3rd party content would be nice.  I take that back about you being a "frekin retard" lol but im not reliving no "glory days of the past" as if any existed for the gamecube then.  Regardless, I stand next to my opinion. And anyway I would rather have them give a attempt at making a Wii game than perfecting a PS3 one (cuz i dont have a ps3 ). 

You should give 3rd party developers more trust with getting the controls right and trust them not to slap on "waggle". Medal of Honor 2 Heroes for the Wii is awesome, and its being made by a team who specfied on the PSP. It has the graphics, the online (32 player), and the controls that rival MP3. It shouldn't be surprising that 3rd party developers are starting to get it, and really pushing what the Wii could do.

 Well Truce Claudev250

 im calling it a night