WessleWoggle said:
bigjon said:
ok, I like the fact your open about it at least.
It just seems many atheist are more "zealous" about atheism, than religiuos people are in their religion. Like even in this thread, you dont see.
I am a christian, what any reason about person who does not want to burn in hell will be.
but you do see,
I am an atheist, with some sort of followup or whatnot.
As far as a supreme being goes, I think many people do not want to believe in a God because it limits their freedoms. If there is no god there is no moral authority except maybe the golden rule. That is why they dont want to believe in a God, it is not necessarily the reason they dont. To many it is illogical.
Personally I think both sides of the coin come down to faith. theist see the order of creation as a proof of a supreme being, athiest try to find science (most of the things they have come up with are faulty at best). Based on hard concrete evidence neither side has enough to prove their case. Christians have always known it comes down to faith, it is the same for many Athiest, they just dont know it.
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Believing in god limits freedoms? No sir. When I believed in a God I didn't do anything different, because I had nothing different to do. It limited my freedoms in no way. When I was a christian I still a doper, and I still had gay thoughts, but as a christian I though I knew the will of God, which was peace, love, understanding, and balance.
Believing in God didn't limit any of my freedoms morally. All it did was limit my critical thinking skills.
Both sides of the coin do not come down to faith! This is a bullshit argument I've heard far too much.
I, as an atheist, believe in observable reality, nothing more. Theists and people of other religions, believe in things outside of obervable reality, which takes faith to believe in, because you cannot observe things outside of observable reality.
Atheism has nothing to do with science. I don't believe in everything science says, and nothing science teaches has anything to do with my non belief in things outside of observable reality. I only believe in the scientific process, which is, observe, test, and repeat. Science, is based on observable reality, which we can use the scientific process on. We cannot use the scientific process on anything outside of observable reality, and that's why theism is called faith, it's about something outside of obervable reality. Atheism is about rejecting the concept of God. Atheists can observe that there's no observable evidence for God, which means there's no observable reason to believe in god.
Observable reality is where the line is drawn when it comes to faith. Most atheists only believe in observable reality, where as theists believe in things outside of observable reality, that's why it's faith. Now that you have heard what I have to say on this issue do you still think atheism is based on faith? If so, why?
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