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megaman79 on 06 February 2009
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bugrimmar said:
Phoenix_Wiight said:
bugrimmar said:
Demotruk said:
Well, you have to judge failure fairly. For instance, would you call No More Heroes a failure? It is likely to go gold in it's lifetime. That doesn't sound like much but it's far better than anything Suda-51 has done before, and they were extremely happy with it's sales.

So you have to qualify what you mean by 'failure'. If you look at No More Heroes the way I do, then your prediction is already incorrect.

 

ok here's my uniform standard for failure:

if a game sells far less than the average for the genre that it is in, it is a failure. example, call of duty: world at war sold substantially less than the ps3/360 versions. it is a failure. if the conduit happens to sell far less than the average sales for a shooter (i'm not comparing it to call of duty, but the average), then it is a failure.

 

thats not really fair for cod. it may be at .65 right now, but it has the chance to sell up to 1mil + and thats definitely not a failure, even tho its less than the others

 

call of duty: world at war wii is a failure because in comparison to ps3/360, it sold far less. the comparison, in this case, is (cod wii) vs. (cod ps3/360).

if, for example, it wasn't called call of duty and it sold that amount, then it's not a failure since the comparison would be (wii shooter) vs. (all shooters).

 

Dude, this thread smells like fear, i know your scared. Firstly COD selling 650k on Wii in 3 months tells anyone that there is enough of a market on Wii to sell core games. Secondly, established franchises like what? banjo kazooie? What happened to the 360 crowd when that established franchise was released?

You know the irony of this is EA, who complained about making unsuccesfull original games this year, made losses on titles for the PS360 systems.

Lets not forget this definition of success. How many PS360 titles have sold less than 500k which, as established in other threads, is simply not profitable for an HD title.

Lastly, its ok. Your just going to have to buy a Wii like everyone else. Deal with it



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