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mrstickball said:
It's amazing how often people use the 'Game X has already saturated the market! No one will buy because everyone bought it already'!

For the record, it didn't work with:

Halo 3
Gears of War 2

In both cases, Sony fans assumed that Halo 3 owners wouldn't buy the system, since they already did for Gears 1. Likewise, Gears 2 had the same argument, which didn't happen, since Gears 2 brought in tens of thousands of new X360 owners on launch week vs. typical sales numbers.

Furthermore, if you want to follow that logic, I fail to see how any game you listed, save Gran Turismo 5, will move any hardware for the PS3. Uncharted 1 already came out, so did Tomb Raider: Underworld. R&C is out, and so is LBP which is a platformer too. MAG couldn't bring in new gamers since KZ2 will have been out + the ever-popular Call of Duty series.

So you have to choose which side your on, either:

1) A sequel can move hardware, even if it's predecessor is on the same system if the IP is popular enough
2) A sequel cannot move hardware, unless it's predecessor was not on the same system.

So please pick your side. You seem to want to invalidate the possibility that Halo 3: ODST cannot pick up new fans, yet Uncharted can. I don't follow how that's very logcal, given that Halo 3 sold about 4-5 times as many units as Uncharted.

Furthermore, I don't understand the Forza 2 saturation question. F2 was the first of the series on the X360 - same way with Ratchet & Clank. If F2 saturated the 360's racer market, wouldn't the last 2 R&C games on the PS3 done the same?

Thanks for typing the above.  Some create their own realities, I suppose, with selective reasonings.

Anyway, I really hoped to see ME II this year.  Its still my favorite gaming experience this gen.  But if it gets pushed to Q1 next year, then it could be pushed to Q4 very easily (see release window of ME).  That makes me sadder.

Plus, Bioware hoped to get the trilogy finished during this gen.  In all honesty, it is what works best IMO, finishing a gaming trilogy during one gen.  With a tentative expectation for a new console during holiday 2012, that makes an ME III release coming when a new console is introduced.  That could hold back its sales appeal, as it could be perceived as "last gen" if new console fervor is high at the time.  Dunno ...