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nightsurge on 30 January 2009
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Rpruett said:
FKNetwork said:

P.S, Rpruett, Give it a rest as your just making yourself look rather silly now, people with a lot of knowledge of pc building/gaming/chipsets will know your so called "facts" are totally wrong.

And I don't know anyone that uses integrated graphics for their pc gaming, anyone with a bit of sense would get a decent dedicated graphics card for their pc,

 

I have every bit of the experience in building/gaming/chipsets as "the other two people" you mentioned.   Did you miss the posts by the guy whom works for Dell and deals with this on a daily basis?  Scroll back a few pages.  You might be surprised.

 

No one who considers their self as a "PC Gamer" would use integrated graphics.  Someone who wants to play a lot of good games, can't afford a sexy gaming PC and console but is interested in the exclusives by the various consoles will have a choice however and some options.    The bigger gamer will choose to play more overall games, by buying PC/360 exclusives to run on their PC and buying a console that provides them with games that they can't play anywhere else.

 

Rpruett.  You are talking about different audiences entirely.  As I've said many, many times.  Your idea of "PC gaming" is the casual afterthought of most PC buyers.

If it really was better to play these games on PC (better being a general term for more enjoyable, cheaper, etc), why is the PC games sales plummetting while consoles are on a rise year after year?  Another thing you've ignored.

Also, the Dell guy was smart enough to leave after he realized his arguments do not apply to this thread or the "I can play it on PC, so why get a 360?" that started it all.

 

For the casual PC user that wants to play games and doesn't care how they look, you are absolutely right that integrated could be enough for them.  For the people that actually want to play the newest games quite often and have the best experience graphically as well as enjoyably, they will either use a discrete graphcis card or get a console.  Again, you simply are not representing the correct audience here.  PC "Gaming" is aimed at the higher end spectrum, hence why many games have high "recommended system requirements."  Some individuals may buy these games and still enjoy them just as much on the lowest of low settings... but hey some people still like using VHS movies and record tapes

Also, a game at 480i standard definition on older televisions (non HD or ED) played on an xbox 360 will still "LOOK" better because even when it scales back on a 360/PS3, the details and other settings are still at a maximum, while on integrated graphics you would have to scale it down a ton AND turn down the settings.  By the way, many monitors these days don't support anything lower than 800x600..... so turning it down all the way to 640x480 would not be applicable in many situations.