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dgm6780 said:
Taking the list of upcoming games from Stan85's post as inspiration...

Do you admit older onboard chips like the 7100 and 6150 can run upcoming mega hits, Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 at acceptable levels?

And I work at Dell.

And I think we were arguing different points. The onboard graphics do NOT equal an xbox, but do provide a good gaming platform even for the newest games.

I do not admit to the older chipsets being acceptable gaming platforms.  I guess we are definitely arguing different points.  When I think of PC Gaming, I think of PC's that were purchased with that as a main purpose of the system.  Some average consumers who just want a Home PC and buy a game for it, they are not the same type of people that would buy either console anyways (since they are not overly concerned with graphics).  The whole premise of this thread and the branching arguments I have made is comparing the HD systems with a PC that is actually meant for HD high detail play.  I have been trying to show that people who are even concerned about the HD consoles and make the claim "well I can just get that on PC" are usually ones with good gaming PC's and not the ones that don't care about graphics or the ones who buy the cheapest OEM computer like you all were saying.

I was saying that the majority of PC's are bought without Gaming as a priority, and those PC's will not play games to the quality of the 360 or PS3, which is why you can't come in here with the argument that onboard graphics and a cheap $500 pre-built system is enough to compete with the gaming that a 360 or PS3 can do.

The onboard graphics may be acceptable to some, but not those who are actually concerned or interested in the HD consoles, so I guess again, like most things, It's just down to opinions and the eye of the beholder.