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windbane said:

you have already proven yourself to be wrong (Goldeneye having a smaller userbase?!), but like I've already told you:  CoD1, CoD2, and CoD3 were made for console only.  The first 2 weren't the PC versions, they were spinoffs, and CoD3 was console only.  If that doesn't denote a shift to console, I don't know what to tell you.

The Pandora Tomorrow multiplayer had spy vs merc, which you apparently know nothing about, but to say that wasn't influenced by Halo pulling off mulitplayer on console is crazy.  microsoft established the online infracture to pull off games like that on consoles.

MoH deserves credit for the PS1 release, but it wasn't near the game that Halo was and it didn't spawn a bunch of shooters like Halo did.

Point conceded as to the N64's userbase. It is the only point which you will receive in this conversation, and affects the rest of the discussion not at all.

Call of Duties 1-3 were not made for console only. Each of them started off on the PC. They were not spawned by Halo, either - they probably owed more to the success of Medal of Honor on the PC.

One multiplayer mode does not magically change a third person stealth game into a first person shooter, stop being ridiculous. And Halo's matchmaking has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation insofar as "legitimizing console shooters" goes.

Halo did not spawn any huge series. Halo's experience isn't even intrinsic to consoles. It showed that you oculd get a PC-ish experience running on a console, and PC games started showing up on consoles thereafter.

It didn't spawn anything, it just showed developers that wiht some tweaking, the PC games they were already making could be shoehorned into the confines of a console's controls.

It did not legitimize first person shooters on consoles. Goldeneye did.

Halo showed that first person shooters on consoles were capable of being phenomenons. It also marked the signal for a metric ass-ton of PC ports to land. But it did not "spawn" many franchises that didn't already exist or owe more to other series, and it didn't spawn any that are still relevant in today's market.