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Final-Fan said:
bouzane said:
c0rd said:
bouzane said:
People who argue against points 5 and 6 seem to forget that the turds that we call the N64 and GameCube outsold fantastic consoles like the Genesis and the Dreamcast. I play just about every genre of game ever concieved and I have a hard time justifying the inclusion of those systems in my collection.
Whoa, I thought we were past that decade? Sega does what Nintendon't?

It's really strange you're comparing systems from different generations. Still, the biggest N64 hit in the west (besides Mario) was Goldeneye, and Bond isn't quite a Nintendo mascot.

Oh, and just about everything outsold the Dreamcast. The Game Gear outsold the Dreamcast. Heck, the PSP outsold everything Sega, and will overtake SNES/NES eventually. Maybe you find those handhelds more worthy than the GameCube, I dunno...

OT: Gamecube!
For a direct comparison I can point out the fact that the N64 outsold the Saturn nearly 4 to 1 despite the Saturn's 2 year head start. When I revisit the 5th generation consoles, it's usually to play the Saturn and rarely to play anything on the N64. Mario Sunshine is a great example of point #6, a second rate platformer selling over 10 million copies is somewhat disheartening. I admit that the Dreamcast was a poor example. About the Game Gear and PSP, I do think that the Game Gear is pretty much on par with the GameCube in terms of game selection and that the PSP is vastly superior.



Seriously though there does appear to be an ongoing meltdown here.   

Since when did Sunshine sell 10 million copies?  Unless he meant SM64, in which case:  I've grown accustomed to hearing Sunshine hate, but if you just called SM64 a second rate platformer ... it's on. 

I had a Game Gear, and loved it, but comparing it to the Gamecube?  Show me its RE4. 

 

Whoops, I should say 6 million copies, thanks for pointing out my error. About RE4, I thought that was one of the most overrated games of all time. I've finished both the PS2 and GC versions and while the GC version is more fun it still didn't impress me. I didn't find it frightening in the slightest, the A.I. is terrible, not being able to do things such as lean to avoid projectiles and having to pause the game so often to change weapons and heal is unintuitive and detrimental to the immersion of the game. I remember that while I was on a bridge approaching the lake where you fight Del lagos a mob of ganados approached. I had to pause and equip the shotgun, unpause to shoot them to the ground, pause and equip a grenade, unpause and throw the grenade into the pile, pause and equip the pistol, unpause and finish the survivors, then curse when another mob appeared >_<. The only GameCube title that I really enjoyed was Metroid Prime, my second favorite game ever created by Nintendo after Earthbound. I'd say that it is more then fair to compare the GameCube to the Game Gear, the Game Gear had some great games like Shinobi I & II, Ristar, Crystal Warriors and the Defenders of Oasis.