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Khuutra said:
blue-lady said:
Khuutra said:
blue-lady said:
scottie said:
You're basing this off the mistaken belief that Halo 1 brought FPS to consoles I assume?

Sorry, Halo Wars is no more significant that any other console RTS

Not at all.

I'm basing it off the highly substantiated notion that Halo 1 made FPS relevant on consoles at large.

A strong argument could be made that Goldeneye made console First Person Shooters relevant four years before Halo tried.

No.

Goldeneye didn't spawn a mass of shooters. In itself it was an awesome and massively popular game. I got an N64 JUST for it.

But it didn't spawn the culture of shooters Halo did.

 

I'm trying to figure out if you're serious and I'm coming up blank, here. What other massive shooter franchises did Halo spawn, exactly?

And that doesn't change the fact that you're moving the goal posts, here. Goldeneye sold as well as the original Halo on a smaller userbase and is still played to this day. It completely legitimized the consoles as a platform for capably made shooters in 1997.

no one plays goldeneye unless they want to punish themselves.

Halo spawned all the highly popular FPS on consoles.  FPS was not a popular genre on consoles until Halo.  The controls were much better and lan made it take off.  This is like comparing Wolfenstein and Doom.  Sure, Wolf came first, but Doom launched FPS into the mainstream.  Halo did the same for console FPS.  I've never owned a M$ console and I was a PC elitist at the time denouncing Halo compared to Counter-strike and others on PC, but it deserves a lot of credit for console FPS.

Btw, last I checked the N64 sold a lot more than the Xbox.