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Deneidez said:
SnowWhitesDrug said:

This is why I believe man can never create a being that is just like himself. The thing will always be maths equations, like an animal. but even then it will lak the "life" that is in an animal that causes it to be alive. 

Actually with current level of bioengineering one could resurrect whole species back to life and that means bringing back to life neanderthals for example. If thats not creating a being like human, what is? :)

"Scientists are talking for the first time about the old idea of resurrecting extinct species as if this staple of science fiction is a realistic possibility, saying that a living mammoth could perhaps be regenerated for as little as $10 million. The same technology could be applied to any other extinct species from which one can obtain hair, horn, hooves, fur or feathers, and which went extinct within the last 60,000 years, the effective age limit for DNA."

http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/11/20/2257231&from=rss

Well, I revisit my comment/opinion about the matter itself:

I personally am a indie dev and I do like to figure out how something is done in games. Especially AI in strategy games have fascinated me always and I always find a way to make AI do exactly what I want it to do(I figure out the algorithm and follow it.). To make AI that impress/fools game dev is even harder so 'we' are kind of immune until we have enough processing power to simulate all the things theres going on in brains. When that happens, no one can say is it real or not.

lol dont be foolish man, I'm not talking about bringing something back from the dead through genetic engineering. You have misread what I said (as many people on VG charts do, for what reasion I dont know.) I used the word "create" in that scentence youve picked out. I used that word with the intent that it would be read as "making something from scratch" just as an artist creates a painting on a blank canvas. The painting didnt exist and had never beed heard of until the painter imagined it and then painted it on the canvas. Bringing an extinct animal back from extinction is no different to mating 2 dogs. Yes its a much more complex process, but in that man can not claim to have created an animal or life.

The gift of life is not something that man can create and as far as I know no man understands exactly what life is. Yes man can controle to an extent the giving and taking of life, but when something recieves life it is concieved from a source unexplainable to science. Man cant make a life creating plant like a power plant and then chanel life into anything he likes. This isnt transformers and the all spark doesnt actually exist lol. But, as science prides its self on observation and recording the observation it could be fair to say that some where out of the physical a life giving source exists.

You also have to remember that what is on a computer is bound by binary code. 1's and 0's. And "life" isnt exactly something that can be converted to 1's and 0's lol, so there for a computer character can never "become" alive, and neither can a computer controled being. They can only imitate something that is alive.

The tough thing is working out what causes something to die. Is it the body shutting down first or the mind leaving the body? If the mind leaves the body can the body still live or can a mind be reconected to a body after its died? And why can some people be brought back to life on the operating table and others cant? And do people who are in a comer and being kept alive by life support still have their mind? is it just the body operating on some form of mechanical basis due to oxygen being pumped into their blood. Like petrol into an engine. But have the people who wake up after years and years kept their mind making it possible for their brain to re-engage with it and resume consiousness?

lol there are alot of questions surrounding life and its connection to the biomechanical flesh and although I have thought about this alot I still have no clue to the life conection to the flesh relationship. But I think if we can understand how things that were alive no longer function we can start to pinpoint some clear ideas on life its self. things such as abortion might become considered murder if they truely discover life begins as soon as conception. But I'm sure we will discover all this in time :)



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