Does the 360 have any real exclusives?

[Onyxmeth]

Groucho said:

Onyxmeth said:

Groucho said:

Considering that the PS2 still had exclusives as late as 2007 (God of War 2, its own versions Singstar & Buzz, etc.), I think that taking release rate, and quality-over-time is really much more important than "count".

The X360 was hotter than the PS2 in 2007 because it was just that -- hot. Upcoming. The awesomeness was getting released, all fresh and new, and it was good stuff, to boot. If you want to map a console's performance, in terms of exclusivity, you have to consider time and growth/recession, plain and simple.

Otherwise, who cares about any console, but the PS2? It has a truckload of games rated well on metacritic... guess what those games would be rated now, if they came out on the 360 or PS3? Even the 2005 exclusives for the 360 are pathetic compared to just last year. Their metacritic rating is near meaningless -- heck many of the low scored ones were even criticized for looking too much like PS2 titles.

A simple snapshot tells no meaningful story, in this regard.

Do you have some way to measure whatever it is you're talking about?

The same argument could be made for early PS3 games, but I counted them too. If you want everything to be wrapped in a nice little bow of statistics, then that can't happen, unless someone actually knows how to do it and what to look for. This was merely to bust a myth and regardless of whether anyone thinks those games are good or deserving, the myth has been busted. I really don't care what else anyone takes from this thread. That was my only point.

 

Sure.  Its some serious effort though.

Take the exclusives and map them out, from their release, for 1 year past that release date.  Kinda long for a shelf-life, but this isn't some bean counting exercise, so a relaxed approach is fine, IMO.  Show the count as a graph.  We can see some cool trends in that (I dunno what they will look like).  Do the same thing for average score of those titles, and sales numbers... extend it out for 1 year past the release date, and make a graph.

That would be very interesting information, and frankly (I know you love your 360, Onyx =) ), the 360 will probably look hot in them, and I think the criticisms would be much lessened.

Or don't.  I almost feel like doing that myself, given the list you've put all the hard work into.  I'm really interested in followup info over time, personally.  I'm only whining because I want more from your cool compilation.  It doesn't really say anything of real interest yet... just my opinion.

Well you seem to have a good handle on it, so go ahead and graph it. As long as I don't get huge disputes from people with legitimate concerns, I'll put them in the OP. At the moment, my thread has done precisely what it was intended to. I know you've seen the comments before of a lack of exclusives, so you know it's basically been debunked at this point. I don't mind making this thread more useful though to more people. I'm always open to that.