Munkeh111 said:
Squilliam said:
windbane said:
Squilliam said:
Hmmm, I guess the best way to get a handle on how good the game is by comparing the sales of the closest rival which is Call of Duty 4 and if sales are lower but reviews are higher then one can call it a manipulated review process. If sales are higher but reviews are lower then the game was likely unfairly treated by critics. Because you see, theres a strong correlation between a high review and high sales between Metacritic and vgchartz.
I concede at this point that it is impossible to know for sure. But the standards for games have increased substantially this generation, what was once a shoe-in for a high score is now moving into also-ran territory. |
Wow, you are the same guy that created a thread saying R1 was better than R2 and that the SALES proved it!
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=57620
Let me tell you again: sales may coincide with reviews sometimes, but strong sales of a game do not guarantee quality! Everyone (I thought) knows that. There are hundreds of examples of games that are highly rated and don't sell well and games that are lowly rated and sell great. Please understand this.
Also, your choice to crusade against KZ2 is indeed an odd decision considering reviews come out this early for games all the time. I've already given you many reasons for the early reviews, and there is nothing strange about it.
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- Games are a mass market phenomenom.
- This is a sales site.
- The quality I was referring to was mass market appeal.
- Killzone 2 is expensive, so therefore its targetting as wide an audience as possible.
- Metacritic measures the wide appeal to a broad spectrum of reviewers its not a focused measurement.
- There is an extremely strong link between sales and appeal and metacritic scores.
- Therefore if sales are low then either A: The reviewers got it wrong. B. The game lacks appeal to a wide audience (See above) or C. A combination of the above. Furthermore we do have a benchmark in Call of Duty 4. 94% 4 Million sales on the PS3.
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Carnival games, Need for Speed Undercover. I think you will agree their sales did not match their reviews
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and hundreds of others. There are too many factors in how well a game sells to act like quality is directly related to game sales.
1. Wii Music is part of the mass market phenomenom, but it selling well doesn't mean reviews are wrong.
2. this being a sales site has nothing to do with the quality of games as they relate to sales
3. mass market appeal is not just dependant on metacritic. it's also effected by time of release, ads, previews, genre, install base
4. KZ2 is targeting as wide an audience is possible that can afford to buy yet another FPS, sure. That doesn't mean that metacritic scores will directly effect the sales and that +/- 5% from CoD4 on metaciritic is going to be directly related to the sales.
5. Do you really need us to keep listing the games that show a complete lack of coorelation between reviews and game sales? Really? Are you that oblivious?
6. Or perhaps 50 other factors that go into selling a videogame.
