VGC Poll: Abortion

[Nirvana_Nut85]

WessleWoggle said:

Nirvana_Nut85 said:

WessleWoggle said:

Nirvana_Nut85 said:
Pro Life and I'd like to quote something that I found very interesting while reading The Revolution: A Manifesto by Ron Paul

"People ask an expectant mother how her baby is doing. They do not ask her how her fetus is doing, or her blob of tissue, or her parasite. But that is what her baby becomes as soon as the child is declared unwanted. In both cases, we try to make human life into something less than human, simply according to our will."

That quote assumes human life has any value in the first place though...

Don't get me wrong, let me elaborate, human life has no value, only human knowledge, and human acheivement. A unborn fetus child, whatever, has neither. Human potential though does have value... But it's value should not be forced.

 

How does human life itself have no value? please explain? So what your stating is that the average joe who lets say isn't the most knowledgeable person or has achieved great things in life, well that his life is of no value?

 

 

Life, or human life has no base value. Only potential for value. Truthfully nothing has any value but what we give it... So, lifes value, the only one that I can think off past physical value, is to give things other things value through perception... They do not have value in the first place though, past their energy value, because we're all made out of energy.

Humans are just globs of cells with mental activity. Same with fetuses. Most prolifers try to make it out, that you're somehow special, objectively your are not.

Of course, subjectively to me, human life does have value, because I'm not an immoral monster. But when it comes to arguments about thinks like abortion, I must seperate from the biased flawed mother fucker known as me, and try to think as an unbiased observer.

Thinking outside my small self, like Bill and Ted said to Socrates, all we are is dust in the wind, dude.

 

 

If you look at it from the perspective that human life is precious then it does have a value, even if its unborn and in the womb of the mother, even if were just a pile of cells with metal activity and energy.

I'm going to assume (and correct me if I'm wrong) that your looking at it from an athiest perspective. THats where are values differ then because I look at it from more of a spiritual aspect (and no not like the kooks you see on t.v)