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superchunk said:
As a convert to Islam I can confirm that your OP is right in every detail. That understanding of Islam after reading the Qur'an is exactly why it grows so fast worldwide.

The problem is then we all look at the middle east and collectively say, wtf. As I have commented before, Islam now is really no different that Christianity in the Dark Ages. Most actions and beliefs of the mass are not part of Qur'anic teachings, they are simply distortions of out of context passages and even more are attributed to the Hadith literature that is proclaimed to be from Muhammad's personal views and sayings. Why that is considered part of Islamic law completely confuses me since the Qur'an itself says that you should have no other book but the Qur'an as your guide.

If you are curious I would suggest reading it. That is truly the only way to really understand what Islam is about. Don't base it off the writings of any one person or any highly uneducated group of people.

@im_sneaky, your wrong. None of the Qur'ans verses teach hate, killing, or brutality. In fact the only holy literature I have ever read that prescribed killing someone without just cause, i.e. in defense or as punishment for murder, is in the Old Testimate/Jewish TaNaKh.

Care to explain this to me, Superchunk?

2:190-2.193:

"2.190":    And fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you, and do not exceed the limits, surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits.

"2.191":    And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

"2.192":    But if they desist, then surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

"2.193":    And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah, but if they desist, then there should be no hostility except against the oppressors.

The Women, 4.89:

"4.89":    They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

The Immunity, 9.123

 

"9.123":    O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

Really like an interpretation about why the Qu'ran perscribes such things.

 



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