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Edouble24 said:
Nintendo did publish FF in America, but it didn't sell very well. FF saved their company because of the Japanese sales numbers. Sony on the other hand has helped FF become a gigantic franchise and that's when Square became a major player in North America. They may not owe anyone, but if the topic creator is determined to say they do, it would be Sony more than Nintendo.

No, I don't expect a third party to worship a console because they made money on it, but Sony DID help Square. There was also the stock thing that I mentioned which helped them out, but you ignored that point.

As for the CDs, yes it is a well know fact that Nintendo rejected the Playstation because they didn't want Sony taking a cut. However The PS add-on wasn't the N64. Nintendo could have used CDs for that if they wanted to, but opted not to. Most people claim it was because of Miyamoto wanting carts for Mario and Zelda, and since the entire console was riding on the success of Mario 64, It's not that far of a stretch to say he got what he wanted. Also, you used spong as a source? That's one of the least credible sites I've ever seen. All they do is report false info and confirm rumors as facts.

Now I don't recall saying Square employees should devote their lives to Sony like you seem to think I did. I'm just saying that Sony helped them out more than Nintendo. It really seems like you just wanted to start a fight for no real reason so you did, then try and act like you're above everyone with petty insults and the like.

I never insulted you.  I just said that I wish there was an age limit on the site.  If you took that as an offense, then you are obviously insecure about your age. 

The Nintendo 64 was a direct response to the failed negotiations with Sony.  They did not use CDs because it was the format Sony was pushing, and they were trying to knock Sony from the market by sticking with the safe format.  It was Yamauchi's own stubborness (as reported by numerous sources) that stopped them from moving with the times.

Square certainly wasn't "saved" by Sony like you said.  They would have done just fine on the incredible Japanese sales of FFVII.  Just as the incredible sales of FFI were what saved them on the NES.  As far as the stock thing, I'd like to see a link about that.  All I remembered happening after the flop of FF:SW was a delay in the Square Enix merger.  Square Pictures in fact WAS bankrupted by the venture.  Where was Sony then?  Did they pay to keep Square Pictures alive?  No, they didn't.

I stand by my point that Square doesn't owe Sony, or anyone else, anything.  Sony was paid back for their investment in FFVII with great system sales.  Nintendo was paid for their investment in FF with the same.  Square owes no one anything except us, the consumers.  They owe us quality games.