vlad321 said:
Kasz216 said:
vlad321 said:
Kasz216 said:
vlad321 said:
Kasz216 said:
You do realize that Marx's plan for that was to brainwash everyone in the world right?
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Yeah yeah you and me have had the whole religion discussion before and it all ended civily and I doubt anyone of us has been any more enlightened than before. If we were to start arguing I'd imagine we'd end up in the exact same place before (somethign about The Sims and Matrix....).
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Oh, i'm just saying. Marx is a horrible person to quote.
I mean if you actually read what he wrote rather then the cliff notes of what people tell you...
guy was crazy.
He basically wanted to go all 1984 on the world.
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Some of my Cliff's Notes also said he even intended to actually use religion to keep the people in line, but again, they could be wrong and I actually doubt those Notes. However I do know that once my World Domination plans come to fuition, I'll erase evryone's memory and make myself the diety of new religion, just to keep the peeps in line. Dunno what i'll do when I croak though.... haven't planned that far ahead. Just give me 50 years, you'll see. There will be flaming eyballs in every book and on every wall!
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I'm pretty sure his plan was to have everyones mind washed by the time the "Great Leader" died to the point of where no other great leader would be needed again since society would be reporgrammed.
Though that would mean killing off everyone who helped reprogram everyone... and all in all Marxs communist ideals would of been well... the worst crime ever commited in the history of mankind by an unspeakable margin... in the hopes that it would be worth it in the end.
One great final deed of evil to fix the wrongs of the world and all that. Become the devil yoruself... yadda yadda.
Been a while since i read it... but most people seem to think Marx plan was "The workers will all get fed up and yay! Everyone will agree that everyone deserves an equal amount of everything."
When it was really "the people will revolt, and the leaders should take control and sacrifice entire generations of people for the good of the world."
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I need to get around to reading that too... I'[ve been too time constrained ever since getting into college. However, one great evil to remove all future evils really is fine by me. Depending on how great the evil is, preferably it doesn't include mass massacres.
As for the American Government and Marx. The distribution of wealth in the US is even worse (fewer people holding more wealth) than what Marx speculated.
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It would have to involve mass murders. No other way for it to work out the way he plans it out.
You'd need to basically kill or segregate entire groups of older people who thought differently or threaten to kill them...
reducate the children till they all thought of communism as natural, and then kill off all the government.... then comit suicide.
Only way to make the despotisim that would reducate everyone go away into one giant brainwashing away of things such as desire.
It's not a bad read really, i had to read a bunch of marx for my psychology major.
As for what marx speculated... while wealth is more unevenly distributed... the actual living conditions are much higher then he ever thought possible.
