Sony says PS3 only console powerful enough for Killzone 2

[jetrii]

ssj12 said:

jetrii said:

ssj12 said:

numonex said:
XBox 360 has a better graphics card than PS3. I will take Gears of War 2 over Kill Zone 2 any day of the week.
Sony PR again and they are lying/misleading gamers once again.

 

A GPU doesnt make a system... and the GPU and extra few mbs of ram doesnt make much difference. The PS3 is stronger, just only slightly. The CELL can perform video decoding just like its GPU as it was originally designed to be a CPU/GPU hybrid with the original design of the PS3 having two CELLs. So while the 360 has a better GPU the PS3 has a CPU/GPU and a GPU.

The CELL is a pain in the rear to code, this is why Killzone 2 is probably nearly the best we will see for a year or two.

Also your comment on what you would take doesnt matter. Its just fanboy speech. Frankly If you want to go there Ill take every PC TPS out there over Gears and have a WAY better experience.

 

Negative. The cell processor was never designed to be a CPU/GPU hybrid. From day one, it was designed to be CPU with an unprecedented ability to rip through floating point operations. Remember, IBM planned to sell the Cell CPU on servers and supercomputers. Having it be a GPU hybrid would have made it more expensive to produce without any real benefits. Although CPUs suck at rendering, Sony hoped the Cell processor would be so powerful that although it's extremely inefficient at rendering, it could handle the task without breaking a sweat. If you remember, the original Cell processor patent had over 16 cores and was clocked at 5Ghz. Even if the original plan worked, the Cell wouldn't be able to compete with a modern GPU at the time. Sony made a bad business decision and it bit them in the ass so they had to turn to Nvidia for a quick GPU.

 

Actually i remember watching something on G4TV that had Krazy Ken explain how he sat down with IBM and considered a CPU/GPU hybrid.

So while documents say your version, which was later changed to be an evolutionary chart into the CELL 2 presented at E3 05, there was some talk about what I said as well as the dual-CELL design.

Still the CELL can render and decode video insanely well making it so that it can act as a pre-decoder for the GPU or handle some base calculations for physics and other graphic related areas.

If someone could fine Killzone 2's SPE map I could have sworn it had a some of graphical processes pushed through them as well as AI and the rest of the code.

 

You are correct that Killzone 2 uses the SPEs to prepare graphical data for the RSX to render. However, this is not a feature exclusive to the cell processor. The exact same thing could be done using the cores in the Xbox 360 CPU. However, the PS3 has 6 "dumb" cores and 1 "smart" core while the Xbox 360 has 3 "smart cores." Using a smart core to generate graphic data is a waste. Luckily, the "dumb" cores in the PS3 can also prepare graphic data; and since the PS3 has 6 of them, it's not a bad idea to use them to prepare some graphic data. However, that is still very different from the rendering process being done by the GPU. A modern Core 2 Duo CPU is also capable of doing the exact same thing. In OS X, World of Warcraft actually uses idle cores to accelerate openGL rendering.

I too remember Ken explaining the Cell processor. Then again, I also remember him boasting that the Playstarion 3 whole have 3 gigabit ethernet ports and being a 2 Teraflop powerhouse.