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disolitude said:
The whole definition of "hardcore" is completely screwed in the original post.

Halo is one of the most approachable FPS games out there. Crackdown hardcore? That game was hardcore fun yes...

Lets just drop this argument and enjoy the games that are coming.

BTW I predict that Halo Wars will be 5X more hardcore than Killzone 2. 14 year old gamer will pick up Killzone 2 and get a hang of things rather quickly... Halo Wars, being an RTS...and the strategies involved with that...will require some major getting used to.

I don't know how much strategy is involved in the vast majority of RTSs. With the exception of few (such as close combat) most just devolve into how fast you can click a mouse.

On the other hand, you do have to memorize a build order so that by itself makes any RTS at least 5x more hardcore than any FPS.