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appolose said:

But this is all based on the fact you think certain impacts resultant of actions are inherently wrong; forcing someone not to murder is the same as forcing no gay marriage; you don't like it, therefore you stop it.  Can you tell me why you think that murdering another human being has consequences that are inherently wrong?  If not, then you've become what you've accused.

 

1) Murdering people hurts other people and infringes upon their right to live.

2) Allowing gay marriage does not hurt other people and does not infringe on any rights of other people that are worth protecting.

One infringes upon a right that is worth protecting because it involves your ability to exist at all.  The other right (assuming you can call it a right) is not worth protecting because no one is hurt by the action that the right inhibits and the right is based on a religious belief, which is not the basis for how a society should manage its laws.

Not to mention that outlawing murder is a rule that everyone must follow or else they will be punished.  Not everyone has to allow or even approve of gay marriages.  Churches are free to not perform them.  But society as a whole should allow them.  And outlawing gay marriage discriminates against gays.  Outlawing murder discriminates againsts murderers of course, but committing murder is in and of itself wrong in almost any moral system you can think of.  Whereas being gay is not.

 



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