Square Enix really owes Nintendo

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naznatips said:

Edouble24 said:

naznatips said:

Edouble24 said:
Square left Nintendo because they didn't want to use carts. Money talks? Square took a BIG risk by leaving the current console champion in favor of a platform that supported their vision. N64 was originally supposed to use CDs but Miyamoto Yamauchi didn't want that because of load times, and he got his way. Square had FFVII planned for a CD based system and Nintendo changed their position. Square doesn't owe them a thing...

If anything they owe Sony, if it weren't for Sony Square probably wouldn't be a major player in North America as their big series, Final Fantasy, probably wouldn't have caught on like it did. They don't owe anyone. they are a 3rd party for Christ's sake. They make games, and they make them on systems that they expect them to sell on. Do you think DQ was moved to the DS for artistic reasons? Of course not, it's because that's where they will make the most money. Get over yourselves. Square will make games wherever they damn well please and they don't owe anyone.

 

Uh no, it was Miyamoto that was pushing for carts because he didn't want load times in Mario 64. Yamauchi made the final decision but it was still Miyamoto who wanted it that way and he has a lot of say in what happens.

And I did say IF they owe anyone. Like it or not, Sony surely helped Square become what they are today. If it weren't for Sony I don't think FFVII would have been nearly as popular as it is now in America, and in turn the series itself would not be as popular.

 

You know what I would love? If for once, just for one day, people would either not post about things they know nothing about, or at least admit they were wrong when they are corrected. Miyamoto was just a developer for Nintendo back then. A famous developer, but a developer nontheless. It was solely Yamauchi touting the strength of cartridges and the irrelevance of CDs. Miyamoto simply listened to his boss. Of course he didn't say "cartridges suck, Nintendo fails," but that doesn't mean he's the one who was fighting for it's position. You have no clue what you are talking about and I recommend you simply stop trying to discuss this with me.

Sony did not help Square become anything. Square made their own games, and their own success. They are responsible for themselves, and they have no affiliation or loyalty to either Sony or Nintendo. I mean my god console gaming wouldn't exist at all if it wasn't for the NES, but every developer doesn't thank Nintendo for their success. I wish this site had an age limit sometimes. Who am I kidding, I wish this site had an age limit all the time.

 I agree that third parties don't owe 1st parties anything.

 

The one thing I see wrong here, is that SCE is the 3rd biggest shareholder in SE (up from 4th last year) at 8.58%.  So that is some affiliation.

 

It is true, if it weren't for Sony, SE wouldn't be where it is today.  If it weren't for SE, Sony wouldn't be where it is either.  They have helped each other alot in times of need, and in Japanese business that does merit for something.

 

If you are an SE fan, go with Sony and Nintendo this generation.