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mibuokami on 18 January 2009
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ZenfoldorVGI said:
mibuokami said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
sega4life said:

For the hype it got = NOPE


For being a new IP = YEP

 

Exactly. You need to add conditions, like, "for a PS3 game" or "for a new IP."

You can't say "LBP was a huge success saleswise" and not add a condition, or you'd be purposefully misleading whoever you were trying to convince.

We have to judge these things relatively.

Sure, even without conditions, LBP is a success, you could call it that. However, leaving out any conditions would be purposefully remiss and non-descript.

I could easily say that "Ninja Gaiden 2 is a fantastic game." However, that's not really telling the whole story is it? It's not really a lie, and it is certainly my opinion, but I feel I would be being a bit biased if I told that to a n00b.

Same thing with LBP having "amazing success in the sales arena."

Then Mario Kart Wii is setting in the bar, and wtf. I get busted out as a liar.

The hype train praise LBP as a fantastic game, a pioneer of innovation in gaming and at the same time a link to video game's forgotten pass. Most media agree, praising it for delivering everything it had promise and more, although personally it was not to my taste (I still bought it).

With regards to the sale however, most of the sensible crowd had predicted 3mil+ life time sale which was an achievable and very sensible estimate, especially when it was widely known well before the launch that the game would be heavily bundled.

 

 

It might have delivered what it promised, but it certainly didn't deliver more. Even previewers were promising the best game of all time, and I certainly don't think it managed that. It couldn't possibly have delivered "more" than what it promised. However, this is, as always, the pitfall of being overhyped...by fans, journalists, and Sony themselves.

As to the genre, it's a different type of game. It's Tetris good, not Zelda good. It's not rocket science. Instead of trying to create a perfect game, it created a cool, fun, and simple engine, and decorated it with some very nice graphics and artstyle. It's more linerider/WorldofGoo, and less Bioshock, Planescape Torment, and MGS4.

Of course, without even pretending this is just an opinion, most of us here prefer the narrative, complex, amazingly detailed open world gameplay of a MGS4 or Zelda, to puzzle type scenerio gameplay. However, we do respect greatness in any genre of game, and thus LBP is fantastic and amazing...it's just not most people's favorite.

I hope that explains things better.

Thats exactly it! From a critical point of view, I can safely say that it was a marvelous game with very little short coming, this doesn't mean its going to be one of my all time favourite game, just as I can acknowledge (despite all the bad forum press) that GTA4 was a fantastic game even if I hate the genre and got bored of the actual game within hours.

But how else are you going to measure success other than general consensus and sale? Both reviewers and owner of the game by a large majority are heaping praise upon it and its sale is well within the expected sale of any analyst or just anyone with common sense really (ie not a blind fanboy).