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SamuelRSmith said:
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SamuelRSmith said:
kowenicki said:
I urge you non-europeans to take the test I posted above and the see why the Brits (and particularly the English) are roundly pissed off with then European gravy train. |
Not all British/English people are anti-EU; just the ignorant ones.
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Um, all I can say is sod off. I'm English and entirely against the EU. I absolutely want no part of the EU. There are masses of reasons, but to give you an idea the EU police could take control of the country and there would be nothing the English could. Except we bloody would, If I had to defend my home as an English person for my English way of life I would do it to the death. 90% of English people feel that way.
Ignorance is not looking into the treaty and thinking everything is rosey with it. Look again. I very much want UK to stay clear of EU.
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90% of English people feel this way? Then why did 2.2% of the electorate vote for UKIP in the last election? They didn't win a single seat. (The BNP won even fewer votes... only 0.7% of the electorate).
It seems very apparant, to me, that the majority of Brits wish to remain in the EU. And so what if they do, or don't? Most don't have a clue what EU membership entails.
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LOL BNP is long known as being highly racist in the past. BNP are a massively failiure political party. I would never vote for them. Tell me why then when Mr faggot Gordon Brown said he would not let the public vote on whether they sign the treaty did the public go absolutely insane. Every single paper we have here was against and for good reason. I'll list afew
EU will be able to sign new treaties with other countries on UK behalf without consulting.
EU courts can pass new laws for UK without consulting.
If needs arise EU police can come in and run the bloody country.
I'm sorry but you obviously live in a tiny pocket somewhere in the UK that missed the national uproar over Gordon Brown and the EU treaty.
Mr Cameron has promised us a vote and on this alone I will voter for him. EU talk about M$ monopoly. When EU is a monopoly on the most horrible scale. It's basically conforming Europe to one way eventually, it's World War conformity on the sly. The same thing just without the war.
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Because the public would be outraged by it, but that doesn't mean that the entire country is anti-EU, it's just that they viewed this as a direct attack on the sovereignty of Parliament, which it was. I didn't want the proposal to go through, does that make me anti-EU? No.
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I certainly am against European Union. Europe as individual countries I love our brothers to bits. It's the Union itself that I detest with every last bone. EU is essentially a wolf in sheeps clothing. They are Hitler in a white robe. It's power hunger on the sly like I said. You mark my words.
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An opinion isn't a general consensus. Whatever your personal views are on the EU don't necessarily reflect those of nation.
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I understand everyone has opinions. But some people obviously put there head in the sand to. I ask you this. If EU is not power hungry then why did they even bother to put the afformentioned things in the treaty proposal?
"EU will be able to sign new treaties with other countries on UK behalf without consulting.
EU courts can pass new laws for UK without consulting.
If needs arise EU police can come in and run the bloody country."
Even if they get taken out ( amongst other horrific proposals) they obviously wanted for this complete control. They will keep attempting to gain control of each piece no matter how long it takes.
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I don't think I did say that the EU wasn't power hungry. I personally believe that some of the big highups in the EU do want the EU to essentially become an US of E. Which I happen to be against. The furthest I want to go is have the Euro EU wide, and for there to be an EU army (nations from within the EU should still be allowed to have an armed forces, but they won't need them, they could also make some ex-bloc members feel a little bit more secure, and it would really be beneficial to military technological development).
And I'm not sure whether it will go further than that, I mean, sure there may be power hungry people in there. But members might threaten to leave the union if they feel that new legislation and regulation wouldn't be in the best interest of their people. But, I don't think it will ever get that far. It might, I've been wrong before, but I doubt it.
