Final-Fan said:
mrstickball said:
Final-Fan said:
I have to side against you on this akuma587 in that the abortion question depends on at what point the fetus can be considered a person.
mrstickball, I find it ridiculous that you attempt to discredit an opposing argument by pointing out that some of the people giving it are activists, and then give a source like that one to justify your own position. And that's leaving aside the fact that it was ad hominem in the first place. |
Final, then what are you supposed to do when those performing the 'research' obviously have a bias, as they involve themselves by performing abortions? I find it a hard argument to swallow to be true (that babies do not feel pain until ~25 weeks like the article states) when those putting forth the research perform abortions themselves. Especially given the fact that a large community of researchers put that date much earlier. |
A large community of anti-abortion activists, you mean, which was my point. You said, "that info is from people who are biased, look at this info from biased people instead!"
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Here's the argument though: His sources (which are run by activists and abortionists) say babies feel pain at 30 weeks. My sources say 8 weeks. Lets discredit both arguments and go with the nominal, which puts it at 20 weeks. That's still against his argument that abortions didn't take place after 23 weeks. Not only that, it assumes that no further research would validate that it's earlier - which could always be the case.
