| Final-Fan said: I have to side against you on this akuma587 in that the abortion question depends on at what point the fetus can be considered a person. mrstickball, I find it ridiculous that you attempt to discredit an opposing argument by pointing out that some of the people giving it are activists, and then give a source like that one to justify your own position. And that's leaving aside the fact that it was ad hominem in the first place. |
The abortion question has always been about both science and constitutional freedom. That's how Roe v. Wade was decided. The two are inextricable from each other on the abortion issue. The Supreme Court looked at the historical treatment of abortion by the judicial system and by the legislature and they also looked at what the medical profession thought about abortion. You can read the opinion yourself.
http://www.tourolaw.edu/Patch/Roe/
Anytime the abortion issue comes to court it always involves a combination of 1) Constitutional freedoms and 2) Science. I didn't just pull those categories out of thin air.
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